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	<title>Comments on: JavaFX released = what a disappointment</title>
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	<description>Adobe technology (Flex,Flash,AIR)</description>
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		<title>By: stevpan</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-6693</link>
		<dc:creator>stevpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video player on rotating cube always freezes my browser (firefox).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video player on rotating cube always freezes my browser (firefox).</p>
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		<title>By: stevpan</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-6691</link>
		<dc:creator>stevpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met the similar issues too. Each time when I opened an applet page on javafx.com,  the page will stop responding to any mouse wheel event for a while!   It\\\&#039;s really disappointing.  I checked the first example \\&quot;interesting gallery\\&quot; carefully, and find it\\\&#039;s very sluggish to mouse click event.  

Why Sun always provides immature products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met the similar issues too. Each time when I opened an applet page on javafx.com,  the page will stop responding to any mouse wheel event for a while!   It\\\&#8217;s really disappointing.  I checked the first example \\&amp;quot;interesting gallery\\&amp;quot; carefully, and find it\\\&#8217;s very sluggish to mouse click event.  </p>
<p>Why Sun always provides immature products.</p>
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		<title>By: dominic</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty disapointing. I can remember reading an article saying that javaFX would allow you to achieve the same result as using technolobies like flash or flex, but with have the develoment time...
seems like it&#039;s to ittle to late...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty disapointing. I can remember reading an article saying that javaFX would allow you to achieve the same result as using technolobies like flash or flex, but with have the develoment time&#8230;<br />
seems like it&#8217;s to ittle to late&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dada</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>Dada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait for a long time,but the result is no satisfy enough which we expected for.
But I think Sun will work hard catch to flex/silverlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait for a long time,but the result is no satisfy enough which we expected for.<br />
But I think Sun will work hard catch to flex/silverlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Williams</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went ahead and DL’d and installed (1:12).  The “Fastest” way to get up &amp; running is a 62MB DL.  The installer isn’t as painful as you describes, Benjamin (but it did take a while on my Intel Core 2 Duo w/ 4 GB RAM) (1:18). While waiting I went ahead and signed up for Sun Online Account. Once installed I checked out the “Displayshelf” sample (1:27). Animation is choppy and poor in my opinion.  Then went to checkout “Effects Playground” and launched it in “Java Web Start” browser view.  Had to double &amp; triple click on stuff to make things happen, and when it finally did, it was slow and unresponsive.  Horizontal Scroll bar lags to my mouse, radial dials are annoyingly broken.

When I went to launch task manager to see how much RAM was being used, firefox crashed (1:37)!

I don’t think I’ll be digging into JavaFX anytime soon.  Not until I see some significant improvements here.

I’ve got 4G of RAM here, on an intel core duo.  I’m sad.  I was hoping to see some Flex Competition here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went ahead and DL’d and installed (1:12).  The “Fastest” way to get up &amp; running is a 62MB DL.  The installer isn’t as painful as you describes, Benjamin (but it did take a while on my Intel Core 2 Duo w/ 4 GB RAM) (1:18). While waiting I went ahead and signed up for Sun Online Account. Once installed I checked out the “Displayshelf” sample (1:27). Animation is choppy and poor in my opinion.  Then went to checkout “Effects Playground” and launched it in “Java Web Start” browser view.  Had to double &amp; triple click on stuff to make things happen, and when it finally did, it was slow and unresponsive.  Horizontal Scroll bar lags to my mouse, radial dials are annoyingly broken.</p>
<p>When I went to launch task manager to see how much RAM was being used, firefox crashed (1:37)!</p>
<p>I don’t think I’ll be digging into JavaFX anytime soon.  Not until I see some significant improvements here.</p>
<p>I’ve got 4G of RAM here, on an intel core duo.  I’m sad.  I was hoping to see some Flex Competition here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The draggable MP3 player and some other examples state that they require Java SE 6 Update 10. According to http://www.javatester.org/version.html, my Leopard Mac with all software updates installed has Java 1.5.0_16 which I assume correlates to Java SE 5 Update 16. (Never understood the inane Java version numbering). So that&#039;s probably why that one isn&#039;t working for you too. Not sure if this major Java version lag is the fault of Apple or Sun, or both, but it seems to be the way things go on OS X.

I agree with the performance assessments here, but I didn&#039;t notice quite the install experience problems you mentioned. I got an applet trust dialog, followed by a prompt to install JavaFX runtime, followed within 10 seconds or so by another applet trust dialog, and then the first example started working. That&#039;s about 2 dialogs too many, but otherwise it was fairly quick and painless. (I am using Safari 3.2.1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The draggable MP3 player and some other examples state that they require Java SE 6 Update 10. According to <a href="http://www.javatester.org/version.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.javatester.org/version.html</a>, my Leopard Mac with all software updates installed has Java 1.5.0_16 which I assume correlates to Java SE 5 Update 16. (Never understood the inane Java version numbering). So that&#8217;s probably why that one isn&#8217;t working for you too. Not sure if this major Java version lag is the fault of Apple or Sun, or both, but it seems to be the way things go on OS X.</p>
<p>I agree with the performance assessments here, but I didn&#8217;t notice quite the install experience problems you mentioned. I got an applet trust dialog, followed by a prompt to install JavaFX runtime, followed within 10 seconds or so by another applet trust dialog, and then the first example started working. That&#8217;s about 2 dialogs too many, but otherwise it was fairly quick and painless. (I am using Safari 3.2.1)</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin (Admin)</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin (Admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@William: Seems the whole site is down and they just show some old links. Seems something really went wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@William: Seems the whole site is down and they just show some old links. Seems something really went wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: William from Lagos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William from Lagos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked the sample page but I cant seem to find any to view. Or do you have to download the SDK to view samples?</description>
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		<title>By: RJ Owen</title>
		<link>http://richapps.de/?p=174&#038;cpage=1#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve done some development for it.  In our experience, it performs pretty awfully on a Mac unless it&#039;s really really really optimized, but it works MUCH better on a PC.  If you have one available, try it out on Windows and see what you think.

I expect them to optimize for Mac later.  With 90% of the market on PC, it just wasn&#039;t their biggest concern for this first release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve done some development for it.  In our experience, it performs pretty awfully on a Mac unless it&#8217;s really really really optimized, but it works MUCH better on a PC.  If you have one available, try it out on Windows and see what you think.</p>
<p>I expect them to optimize for Mac later.  With 90% of the market on PC, it just wasn&#8217;t their biggest concern for this first release.</p>
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